bill: the faa closing control towers due to sequester cuts. let's put congress on a couple of the planes and make them sit on the runway until they come to an agreement. [applause] bill: that is one way. jaime: that might work actual leave. bill: we're going to land this plane but before we do it. jaime: no, no, no more snacks. bill: we need the control tower to be working. nice to see you too, enjoy your time off, your vacation. jaime: great to be with you, happy easter and passover as well. bill: right on, all that stuff. we are checking all the boxes.

jaime: "happening now" underway right now. jon: we begin with brand-new stories and breaking news. jenna: italy's highest criminal court overturns the acquittal of amanda knox in the murder of her roommate and orders a brand-new trial here in the united states they call that double jeopardy. the breaking new details just ahead in a live report. plus, while white house tours are still on hold we are learning vice president biden and his team pick up a hefty tab on a recent tour to europe including $320,000 in limousines on top of the million dollar hotel stay. we'll find out a little bit about all of that coming up. these emergency devices could make the difference between life or death and now the fda is seeking tougher regulations as recalls mount. how to make sure the one your office or school has is working.

first to our top stories, new allegations that view it able tell generals was lost in a rush to bring osama bin laden's son-in-law to trial right here in the united states. we are glad you are with us, everybody, i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. two and a half weeks ago this member of osama bin laden's inner family family pled not guilty to plotting to kill americans. the obama administration's push to conduct trials on american soil is controversial. some lawmakers want to know if the case cost us a chance to learn more about al-qaida and iran. khaoeufpb tell generals correspondent catherine herridge live with more on that from washington. >> reporter: good morning. in a very direct letter to mr. obama the chairman of four congressional committees with oversight intelligence, foreign affairs, the military says they have grave thoughts about rushing osama bin laden's brother-in-law to a criminal court for trial rants

interrogating him. he maintained a close relationship with osama bin laden and after 9/11 fled to iran and the four committee chairman believe he has information about al-qaida's relationship with iran, its evolving strategy and capability. the letter says the failure to provide an adequate mechanism for the united states to acquire sensitive intelligence information from him prior to mirandizing him and bringing him to criminal court is a lack of strategy. they are now demanding a briefing from the nation's top intelligence officer james clap era phoupbg others to explain why the administration is so confident that they got everything they could from him. >> i found in visiting in guantanamo, in visiting the prisons in afghanistan that we have ways of getting information. we have people that are highly trained that can sit down and get these people's confidence,

and they learn a lot, or can learn a lot, unless we shut them off with attorneys. >> reporter: the prosecutors presented in court earlier this month, they said he had given a 22-page statement. they confirmed to fox that he has not been briefed on the content of that statement so it is not known waving he provided to investigators before he was read his rights, jon. jon: interesting. catherine herridge in washington, thank you. jenna: let's bring in jonathan chance stker vice president of research at the foundation of defense of democracy. we've heard a little bit about this complaint from lawmakers from catherine. a few weeks ago we spoke to an interrogator, a former terrorist interrogator about gates being in a new york court, an felt very comfortable witness. here is what he had to say. >> i think it continues to reaffirm our criminal justice system for both in the u.s. and

the world. i think i'm in that camp that says it's the right thing to do. u.s. district torts have a terrific record. almost 200 terrorism convictions since 9/11. jenna: you've worked in tere rims, counter tere rims, what do you think about it? >> i think this was a big mistake. we talked about this a few weeks ago, jenna. i think he holds a lot of information in his head about the relationship between iran and al-qaida. we learned about it from the 9/11 commission report. there were a lot of questions that went unanswered. the commission asked for more information about this from the intelligence community. the intelligence community has failed to deliver that, in the meantime now we have somebody who can shed a lot of light on this relationship and what we do is rerush him to court, rather than holding him. so i think that these four chairman are right to demand answers. jenna: what is your take on robert mcfadden and that is the man that just made that point that he felt confident with the court system, about his feeling

that this sends the right message to the world about trying these terrorists in court. what do you think the message is to our enemy? >> well, this is a pre 9/11 mindset. in other words, before 9/11 we looked at terrorism largely as a legal issue. we would throw the book at terrorists but we were not preventing attacks and we were not doing enough to dismantle networks. what we're doing is because we've had a few successes, notably the elimination of osama bin laden and a few others i think we are letting our guard down and this is the problem. we have an opportunity to interrogate, we don't have to interrogate for years but we can for days or weeks before we get to the point where we are ready to hand somebody over to the legal process. jenna: some argue that the right people did get to this particular individual. some also question that. we'll let that debate play out over the next several weeks and months. i wanted to ask you about another terror bust that we just learned about.

some are calling this an intelligence watershed. a young man, he's 25 years old, apparently had links to al-qaida, both in africa, and beyond, and we just learned that he's been in our custody for two years now. tell us a little bit about this sort of process. here we are seeing someone go throughout legal process for two years versus someone who is going through it in a few weeks time. >> this is an individual who was called to al-shabaab in somalia who had links to al-qaida in the arabian peninsula in yemen. if you can interrogate them you can get that treasure trove of information. this american was able to reveal multiple guys between the two al-qaida affiliates and help our intelligence officials get at the core of these two franchises and help weaken them significantly. jenna: it tells us an interesting story we have one man who was recently in iran who

had worked with osama bin laden in custody. we have another man much younger who is working out of somalia and yemen. what does this tell us about the changing face of al-qaida and our war against terrorism? >> sure, well i mean i think that this one individual really demonstrates the interconnect teuft of what we call the al-qaida franchise is or affiliate groups. we know there's been a shift within the al-qaida network that the headquarters so to speak has been weakened significantly, so they have shifted to these affiliate groups. what we now see is the interconnect teuft of them. the kaoeufd the arabian peninsula is reaching out to al shabab, telling them webs and providing them assistance. they are not next to each other so to speak but they find ways of cooperating. you also get a sense of how aqap, kaoeufd the arabian peninsula is looking at the horn

of africa as perhaps the next frontier in jihad. that is something i think american officials will need to look at very carefully. jenna: in your research work look at all the people that we have been able to arrest and get into our custody. but the ideology remains. why? >> well the ideology is something that has been instilled in these individuals for quite a long people. this is something that stems from soud rabe, it comes from iran from the epi centers of militant islam. and this is something that we've not been able to get at. it's a long war. there is no say that you can defect this overnight. it's one of the reasons why i think it's extremely dangerous to say that we are winning the war on terror that al-qaida is defeated. it is going through changes and a metamorphosis right now. we need to be incredibly vigilant to watch the way this is changing and continue to weaken them tactically and figure out how to make sure that a moderate version of islam wins

the day. >> we'll continue to watch the story as it moves through new york's court system. that's where the two gentlemen are at this time. some of the bigger questions remain and we'll continue to tackle those as well. great to see you as always. thank you. jon: italy's highest court overturning the acquittal of american amanda knox and her ex-boyfriend. also ordering them to go on trial again in the tefpb murder of knox's roommate. had the supreme court upheld the acquittal the case would have been closed. now it could dragon for years. amy kellogg is live in london .ith an update, amy. well for amanda knox to was starting her life all over, jon, after spending four years in an italian jail this is a serious blow. she won't be required to go to italy to stand trial again, rather she'll be tried in ab seven she a. for the family of the british student whose murder

knox had been convicted off this is of course the opening up of old wound, but also a chance for them yet again to search for some answers. now back in 2011 an italian court had overturned knox's conviction for murder that had been called a drug-fueled sex game gone wrong. the italian court could not conclude without a shadow of a doubt that knox and her then boyfriend had killed her british house mate in in italy where they were all studying. now the highest court wants to go over it all again, over throwing that acquittal. the case had always been full of holes, but ultimately no murder weapon was ever found. the dna evidence was tphrud for being improperly handled, particularly on tw two keiaho pieces of evidence, kerchers bra collapse and a kitchen knife. after the acquittal knox

returned to washington. now this. >> she is very strong and says she is willing to fight again. she did all this up until now so we will continue to fight. >> reporter: there is only one person doing time for the murder, a man from the ivory coast. now meredith had 40 wounds on her body when it was found and so the prosecution and her family believe that there must have been more than just one person involved in this. if knox and her ex-boyfriend -- particularly if knox convicted in this pretrial italy will probably, jon, ask for her to be extradited but analysts at this point are saying that it not particularly likely to happen. we think the trial will probably get started before the trial, this time in florence, italy. jon: she doesn't have to show up for the trial, fenn she's convicted she probably wouldn't do time. >> reporter: that's what it looks like now. jon: amy kellogg, thank you. jenna: he talked his way into the cockpit. this guy who allegedly claimed

he was an airline pilot. look at him he looks like an airline pilot doesn't he. jon: put some bars on his shoulder. jenna: he walked off the plane in handcuffs, is facing charges. a new fight over gun laws and a warning from three senators that could grind gun control ledge station to -- legislation to a halt in washington. we went out and asked people a simple question: how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, one thing that hasn't changed: the official retirement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years. ♪

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jenna: right now brand-new information on a few crime stories we're keeping an eye on. we are expecting to learn today whether the so-called craig's list killer will receive the death penalty. he was found guilty last week of killing three people back in 2011 after luring them with big job offers on craig's list. this is a french man who was accused of impersonating a pilot in philadelphia. he is now facing several charges of using a fraudulent identity. he was arrested last week after entering the cockpit of a u.s. airways flight claiming he was a pilot for air france. it worked for a while until

folks had some questions. police in new orleans are revealing new surveillance video that shows a missing teacher hours before she disappeared. she recently moved to new orleans and was last seen in a bar three weeks ago. >> turning now to new developments in the fight over gun control and your second amendment rights. three republican senators, rand paul of kentucky, ted cruz of texas and mike lee of utah now threatening to filibuster any gun control legislation that comes to the senate floor. so what does it mean for the future of gun control and the legislation that harry reid wants to bring forward? joining us now, steven hayes senior writer for "the weekly standard" and a fox news contributor. the senate is on break, when they come back in session harry reid plans to introduce legislation that would broaden, among other things, background checks and some other things, right? >> right. yes, that's right. jon: and these three senators are saying no to that or at

least they want to filibuster it? >> yeah i think they are basically doing two things here, one them on substance and principle and the other on process and politics. on the substantive question i think there is no doubt that these three senators believe that any of the kinds of things that are being discussed, as included in this harry reid bill, including universal pw-b background checks, et cetera are vie hraeufrg violations of the second amendment. there is also a political reason they are taking the stand therbgs want to require a 60-vote threshold in order for the senate to consider this bill, so that these democratic senators from red states or moderate senators have to actually go on record voting saying that they favor these things, because harry reid is going to allow a number of liberal amendments that allow these democratic senators, some of whom are up for re-election to vote against, for instance

the assault weapons ban, what have you, so they can have their bonafides that way sort of being pro second amend: this would force them to cast a difficult vote before then. jon: this gets into the arcane workings of the senate. it's hard for people, myself included to understand it. i want to go over it again. the thinking is harry reid would allow say a ban on assault weapons would be offered as an amendment to the bill, so that some of the democrat senators who are coming up for re-election, people like mark pw*eug in alaska would be able to vote no on that and say look i voted against that ban on assault weapons. >> right i think that is exactly right. to give harry reid the benefit of the doubt he has said to dianne feinstein that he would allow this vote and then i think he's going to allow some kind of a vote on an assault weapon

ban. jon: nobody this is it will pass. >> nobody really thought it would pass i think going back. even in the aftermath of the newtown shootings i think it was always a pretty tough sell, and this is a way i think for republicans to make those democrats after they vote in favor of -- after they oppose something like that, is also gets them to have to cast a vote that will be difficult saying in effect, you know, i'm voting to bring this to the floor, i'm voting to have this considered by the senate. jon: but does anybody think that three senators who say they are willing to filibuster could completely block this legislation? >> well if it doesn't get 60 votes, they can require it to get the 60 votes necessary. and if it doesn't get 60 votes what they are basically trying to do is require this super majority, so that it's not just a simple majority, not just 50 votes, but it's 60 votes, which will add the additional

senators, democratic senators, in all likelihood to have to quote for this. there was a test vote on this, another procedural play last week when the senate was considering all sorts of budget amendments, and it passed only 50-49. they were sort of thu even enthusized about that. >> harry reid has never been very enthusiastic about any of these additional measures even though he's sometimes voiced support for at least allowing them to have the vote in his role as a leader of the democrats. you're right, he goes back he had got even a ratings from the nra and had been supported by the nra in the past. this makes it difficult for harry reid and people like harry reid that come from red states, states with strong second

amendment extraditions it makes it difficult for those senators to go and say i support additional gun control measures. jon: that confrontation between longtime senator dianne feinstein and the relative newcomer ted cruz that is going to be replayed a longtime on television clips i think. >> i think so. jon: steven hayes from "the weekly standard," thank you. jon you. jenna: he made headlines posing at clark rockefeller. that is just one of many aliases he's used over the years. he was also -- there is a question about whether or not he took part in a murder. is that part of his past as well? we have the latest from his trial coming up. also wall street keeping a close eye on cyprus today, how bailout deal there is having ripple affects on markets around the world. [chanting] [ male announcer ] just when you thought you had experienced performance

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gee made national headlines impersonate ago rockefeller. is he also hiding a murder tku murderous past? rick has more. >> reporter: this trial is in the second weak. he is charged in the decades old murder of a man whose remains were found back in 1994. this is the guy who had been living the high life. as you mentioned passing himself off as a rockefeller. he had also pretended to be a british baron, a famous movie director among other made up identities. prosecutors say that he killed john sohus whose mother owned the property that they both lived on, that is the house. his wife linda lived there too and she went missing at the same time that john did and she has never been found. that is the central part of what the defense will argue that linda sohus killed her husband and then took off. the prosecutors are trying to convince the jury that the

couple was happily married and it was the creepy tenant who lived in the guesthouse as he was described who was the actual killer. he was almost done several time for the kidnapping of his daughter in a custody dispute in boston when she's new murder charges were filed. we'll keep you posted on the trial. back to you. jenna: thank you. jon: breaking news on wall street. traders are keeping a close eye on the tiny island of cyprus, although the dow is up right now. the country reached a last-minute bailout deal but there is a new round of protests in the capitol. greg palkot joins us on the phone. >> reporter: hey, jon yeah we are in the midst of the federal reserve bank. hundreds outside, very angry protesting. they are worried about their money, they are worried about the jobs, they are worried about the future of this nation. now as you remember the banks have been closed during this.

and they are still closed. most of the banks were set to reopen today. the government last night changed its mind, said they are going to wait and keep them closed until thursday. remember, the people of this european country have been without banking for 12 days, getting into banks, online banking, transfers and help are now set to open on that day. but there will be restrictions as well. there will be a run on these banks is the big concern when they do in fact open up. that is the worry. that is why people are protesting. we saw students protesting today too, marching in the streets. not only worried about the money now but worried about their future. the bailout restrictions that have been placed on this country and the deal between cyprus and the european union is very hash and they the students and people here, and folks around the worlt thing, jon, and that is the very aggressive approach the government took to solving this problem, that is seizing private

bank assets of big depositors, 40% or more to help pay for thing. the worry is that the big depositors get hit, the small depositors that are stpoesed to be assured could get hit as well. this is bail in rather than bailout. analysts elsewhere including the united states are worried that this kind of thing could add a new instability to a global economy that is still trying to get back on its legs. back to you, jon. jon: you're supposed to put your money in the bank to keep it safe, right. >> reporter: exactly. jon: greg palcot reporting live from cyprus, thanks. jenna: speaking of keeping money safe some forced budget cuts may mean that the white house tours are canceled for the time being for visitors to our nation's capitol. wait until you hear the price tag for the vice president's limos during his visit to paris. it's raising questions today about how we are using money. these device kes save lives if

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jenna: budget cuts stop things like white house tours for the public there are some new concerns and questions about just how much our executive branch is spending on travel. this comes as government figures show that taxpayers

paid more than $300,000 on limos for joe biden's staff on his recent trip to paris. peter doocy is taking a closer look at this morning. so, peter, who did the state department pay for these limos?. >> reporter: jenna the contract was awarded to a french much company based in paris about 20 minutes away from the eiffel tower. the exact figure, $321,665, represents the maximum amount that was set aside to shuttle around almost everyone on the vice president's very elaborate trip. the vice president's personal car is of course flown in from the united states. the vice president arrived in france on february 3rd after a few days in germany and while he was in the city of lights he met with u.s. embassy staff and their families. then had lunch at the presidential palace with french president francois hollande. they discussed terrorism in mali, civil war in syria and iran's nuclear program and the eurozone before he

boarded air force two. this is different trip that he took last week to attend the installation mass for the pope at the vatican. jenna. jenna: every administration takes these sort of trips. they haven't normally happened during a time of sequester which is something new. has the state department explained what costs so much money? >> reporter: they have, jenna. it takes a lot of people and a lot of vehicles to keep american leaders safe overseas. the state department official e-mailed me this morning to say these costs are nothing out of the ordinary. they are in line with high level travel across multiple administrations. this contract, the contract costs cover the entire range of support income mowdations for military, communications, secret service staff and other support professionals. security experts are also required to travel in advance of the president or the vice president. safety and security are nonnegotiable. to ensure the safety and

security, jenna, some advance staffers are traveling several days ahead of the vice president. that is part of the reason this french transportation contract is more than $300,000. the hotel contract for just the stop in france was more than $500,000. jenna: some big figures there. maybe we should try skype, right? maybe we could all skype, face time. >> reporter: food is not as good. jenna: that's true. you don't get the face-to-face interaction which is so important. peter, we'll continue to watch the bills as they come in. thank you. jon: well, the food and drug administration is taking steps to tighten regulations on the makers of heart defibrillators. when someone goes into cardiac arrest it could make the difference between life and death. suns 2005, there have been 45,000 reports of them mall functioning. in that time manufacturers recalled their products 88 times. dr. kevin campbell is a

practicing cardiologist and assistant professor of medicine at the university of north carolina. he is also the chief medical officer of cardio ready, a company providing defibrillator services. obviously if you're going to have to use one of these things you want to be sure that it is reliable, that it is going to work the first time and maybe the only time you will get a chance to use it. how concerned should we be? >> well, we know that sudden cardiac arrest is the number one cause of death in the u.s. today, second only to all types of cancers combined. so it is a huge public health problem. defibrillators are the difference between life and death. and they work 99% of the time. over this time period that we are discussing there have been some incidents where the machine didn't work or batteries were expired or pads may have been expired. jon: so it's my understanding that part of the problem here is that the defibrillator companies, one of the things the fda wants them to do is release

information how the machines are designed. i can't imagine that these companies, they're in competitive businesses, that they're going to want to release all the details of the inner-workings of their gadgets for all the world to see? >> well, one of the things that the fda does very well, is they require medical device companies to have something called, premarket approval. in the past automatic external defibrillators, aeds were not required to have this because they were in existence in 1976 prior to the legislation that required pmas. now they will have to disclose this information to the fda and go through an approval process just like makers of other medical devices will. jon: but i guess back to the original question. i mean if there have been these, some thousands of cases apparently in which they haven't worked, i mean those things, we've got them hagging on the office walls here at fox. if they're going to be there you want them to work. is part of the problem the fact that they're not used

all that often? >> i think that is part of the problem, and i think that maintenance programs like, are provided by cardio ready are essential to making sure that these devices work. maintenance programs where you make sure the battery is checked regularly. that the pads and accessories are checked regularly and we make sure the device is going to be ready, and, people at fox or whatever building they're in, are trained to use them that is important as we. jon: what's the takeaway here for viewers? should they be concerned? should they, i don't know, call up for a battery check on the defibrillator in their home or in their office? >> i think routine maintenance or defibrillators is absolutely essential. i think we need to emphasize aeds save lives. the survival rate without defib race -- defibrillation in out of hospital arrest is less than 5%. with very quick cpr and

quick defibrillation, the survival rate can be 70%. we need to push for proliferation of ae. dids. i agree the fda wants to make sure when the aeds are out there and working and going to function properly, the survival rate is better as long as the aed is working and that's the focus of the legislation. dr. kevin campbell. thank you. >> thank you for having me today. jon: you bet. jenna: right now the supreme court has finished hearing arguments in the first of two historic same-sex marriage cases. today's case is a battle over california's ban on same-sex marriage. here is the line you can see for the coveted seats in the courtroom wrapping around the block this morning with some people waiting since thursday. the political, social and legal stakes in this lon long-simmering debate are once again putting the high court on the center stage. with a front row seat shan no bream is joining us outside the court. she was just inside the court hearing the arguments. fill us in and what it

means. >> reporter: there are us it those thousands of folks holding their debate. they are amending the state constitution to define marriage as between one man and one women. it has been challenged all the way here to the court. it is important to note there is very big procedural issue that may stop the court about getting to merits of the case. it is about standing. once standing the proposition passed attorney general and governor decided they would not defend it. so another group of plaintiffs stepped up to defend this case. so they brought it here but there was a big dispute for several, you know, minutes today about whether or not they're even the right people to bring this case. so it's possible that the justices don't even get to the merits. let's talk about that because they did argue the merits. on one side you had several justices saying how can you single out one class a group of homosexuals and say they can not enjoy the benefits of other heterosexuals in the state of california are

entitled to? other justice said this is new thing, this is new concept. why completely redefine what is the bedrock of society for thousands of years? justice scalia said this is newer an than the phones or internet. why not let out the states decide. justice anthony kennedy could. allowing same-sex marriage in california he brought up 40,000 children who have been adopted and living with same-sex couples in california. he said there is, possibility of a immediate injury to the children if we do not allow their parents to marry and recognized as a family unit. that raised a lot of eyebrows because folks watching justice kennedy so closely. you can hear the crowds cheering again. very passionate issue on both sides. we'll have decisions from the justices by june. jenna. jenna: shannon bream with the breaking news and battling through the crowds. a great report for us. shannon, thank you as

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and that is how it all happened. he is okay, but facing charges. as for video the euclid police department are testing tiny new patrol cameras that clip on grasses to record exactly what officers see. this is exactly what they saw that day. so it could revolutionize the a little by the way the local law enforcement works and give us incredible images as well. jon: hats off to them, huh? we're now 45 minutes away from splashdown for the dragon capsule. earlier this morning the international space station released the capsule from its robotic arm sending it on a five-hour journey back to earth. phil keating is live in miami. there were problems on the launch of this ink it. how about return? anything looking, looking bad? >> reporter: well we're coming down a day later than planned because of bad weather out in the pacific but everything so far today looking very, very smooth. right now the spacex dragon capsule is in about the

fourth or fifth minute of its critical deorbit burn. keep in mind the deorbit burn is where we lost the space shuttle columbia and seven astronauts back in 2003. the deorbit burn, returning to the atmosphere. temperatures reach 3,000 degrees. that is why the heat she would performance is so critical. so far so good the dragon five minutes into reentry. five hours ago nasa's tom marr ush burn operated the row brought tick armed and undocking dragon and sending her home. >> sad to see the dragon go home. performed her job beautifully. heading back to her lair and wish her all the best for splashdown today. >> reporter: splashdown should happen in 45 minutes at the bottom of the hour out on the pacific in california where a boat and crew are waiting 250 miles offshore. eventually spacex plans to dish she is splashdowns and actually land their capsule right on the ground

jettison's style, jon. jon: that is cool. there will be other competitors, right? how long until spacex has company servicing the space station? >> reporter: very, very soon. today this is the third time spacex has gone to the space station and returned to the earth. next month one of its private space competitors, based out of dulles, virginia, are putting a dummy capsule on the rocket all the way to the space station to prove it can do this. meanwhile in kazahkstan two russians and american chris cassidy await launching to the space station on thursday which will double the space station crew size from three to six people. this will be the first time a soyuz craft actually makes it up to the space station the same day as launch reducing fuel cost and can imagine discomfort of three people crammed into at smart car for a day or two, severelying reducing discomfort as they head up to space, jon. jon: i would want to make

shaa short trip or short flight. phil keating thank you. >> new calls for help todays a the death toll rises in war-torn syria. we've talked about ways that this situation may improve but what is the conflict only gets worse? what would that look like? we'll talk to a journalist who spent five years inside syria and witnessed the chaos up close. his take next. when i'm on my feet all day, my lower back acts up. this was me.

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jenna: some new reports today that the united states is training syrian fighters to join the battle against president assad who has been murdering his own people for more than two years now. in fact, according to these reports, this type of training has been going on for months now. today the leader of syria's opposition group says they need help in the air. they asked the united states

to shoot down assad's warplanes. however nato is very clear they're not getting involved in this conflict in such a way. with the death toll at 70,000 according to what we know many are asking is the conflict in syria is only getting worse? steven starr, spent five years reporting from syria before the conflict began and up until the conflict really went full tilt. steven, you will notice in even our introduction there, we're relying on a lot of reports. we're relying on youtube videos. you this out in some of your work. what do you think every american should know about this conflict and what you saw? >> yeah. i think there is a very, very important art of missing out of news coming out of syria particularly in the english language news there are still a lot of people that support the regime and or there are a lot of people that do not support the revolution. we get a sense in the media, at least in english language

media, 100% of the syrian population supports revolution. not the case. the reason the conflict has gone on for so long because the vast majority of the people living in the major your ban centers and in damascus and aleppo do not support this revolution. at the same time they might not exactly support the regime. a lot of people recognize assad's regime sort of like a mafia. they don't like revolution and violence and instability that it brings. very much a sense, when i was in damascus this was a revolution of the poor, of farmers from the countryside, that have very little to lose whereas the people in the major cities, as i say, have very expensive properties. they have got businesses operating. you know, they have, they had until recently at least safety industry for the their children. their kids could go to school and so on. they associate the revolution as breaking this kind of a hold they have

been in. we've seen particularly last couple days a greater number of mortars have been launched into damascus, and i think this will actually work in the favor of the regime. these mortars have been partly launched by rebels. but that also -- yeah. jenna: i just wanted, if i could jump in there we constantly ask this question about what should we do? what is the role from an outsider perspective? oh. hopefully we get steven in a second there. that is the big question for syria. what hopefully we'll get to with stefen if we're able to get him back and hopefully have him on again. what is the role for the united states if the divisions are not along the clear lines. if these average people inside syria still support assad what does that mean for how we jump in, if we jump in at all. unfortunately looks like we lost steven. he has been in syria five years. lived there up until the conflict. and he has invaluable

perspective. apologies for that technical difficulty. jon: sometimes the satellites just take your interviews away. an italian court ruling that amanda knox should be retried for murder. so what does this mean for the young american woman who is now back home with her family in washington state after an earlier acquittal? plus one leading businessman says the recovery from the great recession is nothing but a quote, great illusion. coming up more on why he says the rosy picture on improving unemployment is completely false.

jon: fox news alert, people in mexico city getting a shakeup this morning. a magnitude 5.5 earthquake causing buildings to sway, sending thousands of people out into the street as alarms sounded. a second smaller quake shaking the region a few minutes later. scientists say it was centered about 30 miles south of the capitol along the pacific

coast. mexico city's soft soil makes it especially sensitive to distant earthquakes, but the city's mayor says no damage is reported. we will bring you any video as soon as we get it. >> reporter: we are here in the control room brand-new stories coming your way for a brand-new however "happening now." more missile tests out of north korea. here is what is new this time the nuclear nation is naming specific u.s. targets for an attack. we'll tell you who is in north korea's crosshairs. also amanda knox not having a very good day, the young seattle woman acquitted in a sensational murder trial in italy has been ordered to face trial there again. could she end up back in an italian prison? our legal experts weigh in. tkpwed ready for a brand-new mental illness diagnosis, video game addiction. it's true. we'll tell you why experts say violent games could be as aeu district tiff as drugs and -- addictive as drugs and control. all of this has the second hour

of "happening now" starts right now. jon: nuclear north korea aiming rockets to hit u.s. facilities. welcome to a brand-new hour of "happening now." i'm jon scott. jenna: hey, everybody, i'm jenna lee. right now north korean missiles and long range artillery units are on the highest alert. they have orders to be ready for attacks on u.s. targets in south korea. tensions continue to rise following north korea's third nuclear test last month. national security correspondent jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon with more on this progression. how serious is the pentagon taking these threats? they are coming out all the time. the latest round what does the pentagon have to say about it? >> pentagon spokesman george little addressed the new threats from north korea's leaders shown here, war games carried out earlier this month. they say this is a well-worn pattern of belacose threats and

is concerned about anything that might detake hraoeu destabilize the area. he did say they would create a better command and control structure between the u.s. and south koreans. the u.s. is concerned because of advances in north korean long-range rocket technology, recent nuclear tests and a threat to place 20,000 long range artillery units on high alert. jenna: why is north korea making these threats now? >> remember, the u.s. and south korean militaries are carrying out their annual joint million tear raoebgser sizes on the peninsula. those exercises are slated to last until april 30th. pentagon officials are concerned that kim jong un the young leader of north korea is trying to consolidate power by making these threats and trying to look

strong in the eyes of his own people. they are worried that after april 30th that they could see some sort of provocation from the north koreans. we also know from the pentagon that they have been telegraphing to the north koreans that they've been using b52 flights. three b52 flights in recent weeks, they can carry nuclear warheads. the pentagon would not say whether these b52s were armed. it's unlikely that they were armed but it's clearly sending a signal to the north korean leader and we just found out that the third b52 flight took place on monday march 25th. so it is likely that that was seen as provocative by the north koreans. jenna: a story we'll continue to watch. jennifer griffin thank you very much from the pentagon. we'll have more on the north korea threat. we'll take to major general bob scales who hrefrd along the dmz

between the north and south. right now the united states has nearly 30,000 troops stationed there. all the more important to pay attention to this story. jon: the pentagon is spending millions to include antimissile systems to counter that north korea threat, this as president obama and lawmakers try to deal on the federal budget. overall federal spending continues to spiral into uncharted territory. as part of a new series called what to cut doug abg elway is live in washing tonight. >> reporter: almost every president in the last 40 years or so has called for shrinking or streamlining the federal bureaucracy but none of them has succeeded. >> the government is far larger than it ever has pw-rpbgs the deficits are larger, the debt is growing at record rates. >> reporter: government spending has gone up from an average of $88.2 billion spent every year in the 1980s to 1.48 trillion in

the 1990s to 244 trillion in the first year of the 21 century. that helps to explain why the washington d.c. area, a region which has few natural resources and little manufacturing is now home to seven of the nation's ten richest counties. washington is home to the highest concentration of lawyers in the country. the average government work's compensation now stands at over $126,000 a year. >> in some ways the government is immune to the forces that face families and businesses all across the country who are having to tighten their belts, who very often are having to make due with the same amount this year that they had last year. government views itself as separate and immunity from all of that. >> reporter: the government deals with the country's problems by creating new programs. with any new program comes a food khaeufpb contractors,

lobbyists and lawyers all feed tpr-g a government trough that congress seldom let's go dry. >> they are phoeurpbted i more interested in protect being the programs and streamlining them. >> reporter: tonight on special report in the first installment we'll be taking a look at the general services administration, which is sitting on 77,000 under used or vacant properties and that cost taxpayers $3 billion each and every year. jon. jon: one of the examples i've heard of the dichotomy between government and the private sector is in the housing prices right there where you live. they have hardly dropped through this whole recession as i understand it because the government keeps hiring and keeps feeding the housing market in that area. is that true, doug? >> reporter: yeah, our home prices have remained pretty much stable. in the outlying suburbs they've

dropped but in dv proper it has been very, very steady and houses are selling like hotcakes in the washington area. jon: won't the folks in nevada and california and places like that like like to have that problem. jenna: a new study finds violent video games are just as addictive as drugs and kids are especially vulnerable. rick has phoefrpblgts we are tracking this story, jenna. as as a addicts as drugs. individuals who play violent video games and have the games taken away from them could go through withdrawal and need medical help. video game addiction is about to be officially recognized for the first time included in the american psychological association's diagnostic manual that is do out in may. they pointed to adam lanz's obsession for violent video games that was discovered after the mass shooting. while very few gamers will do

something like that doctors say that addicts, mostly young males in middle or high school need help. dr. michael frazier who specializes in this says we wouldn't want anyone to think that the problem lies in the video games any more than the problem for an alcoholic lies in a can of beer. many people can have one can of beer and that's it but others may have a biological predisposition toward addictive behavior in general. it's those people the experts say who need help. parents are urged to set limits on the amount of time that kids are allowed to play these games, and if a young person gets violent when the games are taken away that should be a red flag for parents that maybe there is something more going on with their child. this new class my indication, jenna could lead to more research money and also to insurance coverage for treating the actual problem. back to you. jenna: rick, thank you. jon: well, one ticket, one dream, and a life forever changed, yes, we know the winner in the powerball jackpot.

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power ball. the owner of eagle lick kers thrilled as well. they get a $10,000 check. a printout from the machine proffers it sold the ticket. we spoke to the new jersey state lottery which is still working to verify it. they actually just came out and said that he is indeed the winner. we just got that news this moment. they get $10,000, he gets over a 29 year or in lump-sum option gets somewhere around $1,252,000,000 if he takes the lump-sum. he's still trying to figure out what to do with with all the money. jenna: congratulations to him. what a crazy story. >> reporter: yeah it's crazy. jenna: thank you very much. the us supreme court is considering two major cases on same-sex marriage. private now the justices have finished up more than an hour of arguments on california's proposition 8 banning gay marriage. 39 other states have also put similar bans in place. tomorrow the court will consider the defense of marriage act. that law defines marriage as the union of a man and a woman and

prevents gay couples from collecting federal benefits. tim o'brien has covered the u.s. supreme court for two decades, he was inside for today's arguments. author of a book, a new book "murder at the supreme court, lethal crimes and landmark cases." that's what people are saying about this case that it is a landmark case and all of the comparisons are being made to brown versus the board of education, to row v wade. what comparisons work here if at all. >> in so farce the questions are concerned the comparisons you gave work just fine. the questions are huge. this could be the brown versus board of education for gay and lesbian people, that's based on the question. we don't know what the answer will be of course. in fact i would venture that nobody does, not even the justices who heard the case this morning. they will vote tomorrow and then at least they will know. they were all over the map with their questions today. as you know there is a procedural problem with the case

in that the state of california chose not to appeal a lower court decision finding prop 8 unconstitutional, finding the ban on same-sex marriage in california unconstitutional. so prop 8 is being defending by those who ooh supported it and there is a real question whether that makes the case a real case or controversy for the court to decide. my initial take is it would go up on that and the court would not get to the question of whether states must talk about same-sex marriage. there is some support by the justices to give it jurisdiction and then they would opine all those questions. jenna: we'll have to wait to see what the ruling is for several weeks and months. how does public opinion, because we've heard a lot about the shifts in public opinion in this country regarding this issue. how does that affect the supreme court? >> public opinion is weighed in a number of different manners. one is public opinion polls,

which my experience has been they don't show a lot of attention to that. public opinion is increasingly in favor of same-sex marriage. however, nine states now allow it and that is great progress from a few years ago for those who support same-sex marriage, but 41 do not and the justices also took note of that justice anthony kennedy whose vote could be critical on this case as in so many issues up here noted we are going into uncharted water and maybe the case should be thrown out as improve conveniently granted. if they do that and there is a chance of that then the lower court opinion would stand but it would only affect california. >> interesting, we'll see if that twist actually happens. tim, how does the case today and those variables interact with the case tomorrow about the defense of marriage? how do they interact or not interact at all? >> there wasn't much reference to the windsor case tomorrow and the defense of marriage act.

should the supreme court side with the opponents of proposition 8 and the district court decision in this case and rule broadly then the defense of marriage act is a dead letter. it's also in trouble anyway. that is a much tougher case for the federal government than this case is for the proponents of same-sex marriage. in the defense of marriage act you also have congress saying to the states, we will not recognize your marriage even though what is a marriage has for 200-plus years been defined by the case. what you have to do to get a marriage, what you have to do to get out of it. you have some judges that are for same-sex marriage and some look at it as federal limbs and feel either wait defense of marriage act is in big trouble. jenna: thank you so much for your experience, your analysis as always after many years covering the court it's great to have you join our program. >> thank you. jon: nuclear armed north korea is targeting american bases

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jenna: our conversation on the civil war in syria was interrupted and we were talking to a guest who we waited a longtime to talk to. his name is steven star, he's back with us. a journalist who spent years in

syria. we apologize, sometimes technical tkweufts happen. difficulties happen. thanks for staying with us. the lines are not so easily dived ned syria among the people on the ground. there are still a group of people that support bashar al-assad that would like to have him in power that don't want this revolt to be happening on their land. if you were asked by a senior administration official from the united states, what should our role be in syria, what would you tell them? >> it's a very difficult question. i'm glad that that is not going to happen, being a journalist. you know, i think going in half hearted with this idea that the u.s. and other countries are going to supply rebels with nonlethal aid, and they are talking about giving flak jackets, armored vehicles but not guns and not weapons, i think -- this is -- it's going to fall in between two stools in

a sense you're not really helping the rebels, you're giving them certain protection. since the rebels have been crying out since almost day one or since the revolution make militarized is they want weapons. this is the only way they can defeat the vastly superior syrian government's military. they want guns and antitank weapons. i'm not saying this is what the u.s. should do. i think the u.s. should be quite right to be suspect of what is happening in syria. it's a very, very complicated company on a number of levels and even internally the population is so divided over who supports and opposes the revolution. it's very difficult to say, because the u.n. security council is blocking any great moves in terms of greater international military intervention in the conflict. but, you know, i think a simple threat to the syrian regime that if your aircraft fly then they'll be shot down, and this for the most part from what i

understand at least is the greatest fear among rebels and amongst civilians in syria, is of government planes indiscriminately dropping bombs in civilian areas. jenna: do you think a no-fly zone? some lawmakers are suggesting that now, a no-fly zone over syria should happen as the next step. you're saying that that might be something that should be considered? >> i'm not saying what should or should not happen. i don't propose to kind of give sreurbgs but this is perhaps an option that could work, and perhaps it's the best. a string of very -- not very good options that is left for the international community. sue years have passed. the number of people who have died is in the tens of thousands. we don't know exactly how many. there are no good options in syria for the international community. there is a bad option a worse option and i think doing nothing is the worst option right now.

you know, the syrian regime will carry-on what it's doing for as long as it can. it doesn't discriminate between civilians in bread lines and rebels with guns. it will bomb left, right and center, it will destroy every city and population center in the country. it doesn't care. the syrian regime will destroy the country. it's a case of if we're going down and we're taking all of syria with us, we're taking the security of israel, the political stability of lebanon next door and also reaction. jenna: a scary thought for us to consider for sure. steven there's never enough time. we appreciate you sticking with us. and thank you for all your work. we'll continue to follow you, thank you. >> my pleasure. jon: right now new threats from a nuclear armed north korea. that rogue nation says it is putting its pocket and artillery aoupblts into combat mode and threatening to hit u.s. military bases in places like guam,

hawaii an the u.s. main land. they say it's in response to the u.s. bombers that have been flying sortis that it claims trent its sovereignty. bob scales is a fox news military analyst and spent some time in north korea, five years in fact -- i'm sorry in korea over his time in military service that spanned some three decades. we have a photo of you, general, from that time period. >> thanks, jon. jon: the artillery battalion that helped protect the key area along the demilitarized zone. what is this all about? north korea is ordering its military on high alert. is this more bluster? >> it's mostly bluster. they can't reach anywhere with a nuclear weapon. they can't reach the united states with a conventional rocket. they could possibly range guam where our submarines and b52s are stationed but only with the conventional wreps and they'd be lucky even to hit the island.

the great threat is artillery. as jennifer said early there are 15,000 guns dug into the hardened artillery sites facing south. the 170 military gun and the mrl multiple rocket launch can reach not only many american units but reach through most of seoul. the great fear is that the north koreans will do some some provocative act to hold the advantage. the fear by u.s. commanders is the north will fire a few rounds at the south perhaps at a u.s. mail tear rebase with conventional round, maybe fire a scud and then basically force the american-korean coalition to respond. and that would be sort of a nightmare scenario, jon. jon: the pentagon has responded this morning, and let me read off of the computer what the pentagon spokesman george little said. he calls this a well-worn

pattern of belacose trefpltsz says the rhetoric is too high and this doesn't help, we, meaning the pentagon are concerned about anything that might destabilize the korean peninsula. the north koreans are claiming that we are the provocators here because we have been flying b52's over south korea or maybe an international air space along the coast. >> it's very interesting because the last time we flew b52's over south korea was after the tree cut event in 1976. that really got the korean's attention. they know what the b52 is, it's an airplane that delivers nuclear weapons, and so i happen, personally to having seen it in the past and seeing it now i think that was a very appropriate response. look, the north koreans are a criminal state, their whole purpose for existence is to maintain the ruling elite. there is nothing in it for them to start a war. what they are trying to do is extort resources from china and the rest of the western nations

and they use the belaco circumstances ty most importantly in an attempt to split the u.s.-korean coalition so they can gain the advantage. the u.s. and south korean forces are doing exactly the right thing, they are holding on, they are mildly provocative in return and waiting for the north koreans to act, jon. jon: there are a lot of moms and dads and husbands and wives out there who have shoulders and troops along the border with north korea. what do you say to them right now? should they be worried? >> again, my view and i think the view of most of the people i've talked to in the passenger, that this is merely a provocation. it's more and indication of internal dissension between north korea between kim jong un and his military leaders where he's trying to look tough and the military leaders are trying to gain ascend dance see. is it more provocative than in the pass yes. is the threat of war high, i

would argue it's very version low. there is nothing the north koreans can gain from attacking south korea other than their destruction, jon. jon: major general bob scales retired from the army. thank you. jenna: the jodi arias trial resumes today after a dramatic day in court yesterday. why one expert is now accused of having feelings for the defendant and what he has to say about it. also a stunning reversal on the amanda knox trial after italy's highest court overturns her acquit al. what is next for the young american who spent four years in an italian prison? our legal panel weighs in. >> what's important for me to say is just thank you to everyone who has believed in me, who has defended me, who has supported my family. i just want -- my family is the

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>> "happening now" the jodi arias trial resuming today. the tkefrpbgs pebgt tog call an expert on domestic violence one day after a psychologist who diagnosed arias with post-traumatic stress disorder and amnesia defended his work. yesterday the prosecutor attacked psychologist richard

samuels credibility even accusing him of developing feelings for the defendant, something samuels adamantly device. lis wheel is a fox news analyst and former prosecutor. doug fields is a former prosecutor and attorney. what do you think about that suggesting that the psychologist who is testifying on behalf of this witness may have a little love interest. i'm perhaps that got in there. >> look, it was not the best moment for the prosecution to be doing that. i think the jurors have been asking questions of jodi arias all along, they are engaged in this case. >> they asked questions of the witness sanders as well. >> i think the prosecutor kind of coming in to do that is asking that one question too many that you don't want too do on cross. >> people have said you make the dumbest blunders when you get more and more frustrated and angry. seriously jon. i know that directly from being

in court. the point is he's extremely just frustrated with the quit because she couldn't remember the events and that's why she suffers from pose traumatic disorder. and in complete frustration he says, you have feelings for her. >> unlike the perry mason moment where the witness cracks and says, i did it, i'm so war sorry, i committed the murder, it doesn't happen in real life. >> why did ske that question. >> that's what i mean it doesn't happen. jon: why did the judge allow it? >> the judge should have just jumped in and said sustained. you know how judges do that without even an objection come k-gment like you have feelings. sustained. jon: let's turn to another controversial case the stunning reversal in the amanda knox trial. they ordered the american college student to be retried in the murder of her british roommate. meredith kercher was found half

naked her throat slashed in an apartment she shared with knox in 2007. days later knox and her then boyfriend were arrested on murder charges. they were found guilty in 2009 but their convictions overturned by an italian's appeals court. now the judges want a hole new trial. in this country we call it double jeopardy. i thought she was acquitted. >> in this country an acquittal means that's it. the prosecution gets no appeal. defense can appeal and appeal all the way to the supreme court. prosecution you lose, that's it it's overment not so with italians. here is the question going forward. will she be extradited. i think it's going to be very hard for the italians to extradict her looking at the threat tee between italy and this country. >> even if she's convicted again they -- >> she's been acquitted. >> it's interesting, i mean in the united states real simple if your conviction is overturned on appeal that's on legal grounds and you can be retried. in italy, with the caveat that

we are experts in italian procedure it's really a ruling that she is not guilty on the merits. the extradition treaty says usual not extradict somebody who has been found not guilty. the point is we will hang them with their own logic. if it's an acquittal there will be no extradition, however the italians will contend by analogy to u.s. law it's not really an acquittal it's a reversal on grounds. >> i think the u.s. can come back and say we are not sending her back no matter what the italian courts decide. >> you were a federal prosecutor. you know something about how these kinds of things work. what would be the motivation for the u.s. government to want to take -- let's say that she gets convict ned this new trial. what would be the motivation that would make the u.s. government say, oh yeah we think it would be a good idea to take this woman out of washington state and send her back to italy. >> i've worked on extra digs

cases. >> i have too. >> they go throughout state department. some the way were pontificating about doj. they work with the state department but it goes from the state department in italy to the state department in the united states. most extradition treaties say that the requested country, in this case the u.s. can diskreugs nare lee -- discretionarily decline to turn over their people. there is no motivation and they will not want to turn her over in my opinion. >> the political motivation could be that years down the road or months down the road if we had the reverse kind of situation where the italians are holding somebody we want they could use this as an example. >> that's a very good point in the've built up credibility in the bank. in other words we extradited here later if we ask you to extradict -- >> it's only on procedural grounds here not truth or in sense, guilt or in sense all on procedural ground of what the cops did or did not do. >> and we don't know yet why

they have overturned that acquittal, right? >> apparently no knifed was presented. we have to think it's the forensics again but we don't know. >> in terms of an extradition they are not look at guilt or in sense per se. the package presents probable cause to believe there was a crime and seeks her back. it will be interesting. jon: what a story. >> it goes on and on. >> liz wheel, doug burns thank you. jenna: new jersey governor chris christie promising, promising there will be no scandal when prince harry sreuts the garden state. governor christie was asked on his radio show if there are any plans to make sure the prince behaves and the governor says he's going to be with harry the entire time and that the queen knows that she can from us her grandson with him. harry's last visit to the states resulted in a few compromising photos to say the least at a las vegas resort. they were splashed all around the world in the tabloids.

the prince will visit victims of super storm sandy when he visits new jersey in may. a lot of damage was at the jersey shore, maybe the shown spaoeurd his trip -rblgs i don't know, jon it's not a good model for behavior if that's the precedent. jon: i think stphaobg key is married now. jenna: off the market. thank you, jon. if you have a 401k you probably know the dow is hitting record high, much better than the last few years, right? it may not mean the whole economy is rebounding. why some say there are looming indicators that really we should pay attention to behind some of these numbers. watch out as a city bus faces danger, see how a bus driver's quick move saves the day [ dentist ] with so many toothbrushes to choose from,

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jon: "happening now" this video from china where a bus driver is being hailed as a hero. watch as his bus is moving along when suddenly a huge lamp post

collapses impaling the windshield, knocking the driver out of his seat. but as bad as it looks he's able to get back up and steer that packed bus to safety. we are told that he did suffer a ruptured spleen and is in the hospital recovering. wow. >> well, right now wall street is continuing its impressive streak with stocks up again today. this is due some suggest to an improving housing market. we've got new numbers on housing. february's lower unemployment rate is now at 7.7%. one would think that these are all signs that maybe the economy is doing better, but in an op ed in u.s. news & world report they say it's all part of a grand illusion. they say the country isn't really advancing by comparison werl year recessions it is going backward. despite the most stimulative fiscal policy in american history and a trillion dollar expansion to the money supply the economy over the last three

years as been reclining. the real unemployment rate that he is referring to is at 14.3%. you can see that that includes people that are no longer looking for work and those who are under employed. david asman is the host of forbes on fox and has interviewed mort zuckerman many times before. what do you think of the claims that this is all in some cases a facade, the economy isn't really improving. >> it's actually spot on. companies right now are desperately trying to lower the cost of doing business. it's very expensive to do business in america right now. of course taxes we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world. small businesses are suffering much more than the corporations, and the regulations cost a lot of money. regulation is kind of a tax for a business because they have to spend man-hours dealing with regulations, sometimes they have to hire whole new divisions to deal with regulations, and you think of all the new regulations we have because of obama care, because of the new financial regulations, this is a president who makes it very difficult for

companies to hire nonunion workers, so very often they have to hire -- look at what happened to boeing in that regard. one organization has put the cost of regulations by this administration at a half a trillion dollars. how do they lower the cost of businesses? by firing workers. by stripping their business down to the barebones and that means firing people, and that's one reason our unemployment figures are still so bad. jenna: some suggest, david it doesn't feel quite as bad out there as it did a couple of years ago, because that felt rile, really bad and look at the stock market. >> back then the stock market was bad. this is the irony. very often when companies cut their employment their stock price will rise. we saw that happen with american express, with coca-cola. we've seen that happen with financial companies. they fire people the same day they announce big layoffs a thousand people, 1500 people even more the stock goes up 3, 4, 5%. >> it's good if have you a job it's not good if you're looking to get into the job parbgt. >> it's good if you have stock in the company that is firing p.

it's not good if you're working for the company that is firing people. as a result of these cutbacks the stock prices are going up, but again the unemployment figure remains staggering lehigh. jenna: what should we expect? let's say that the premises suggested in this op ed are true that this is not a real recovery, then that raises the question what is to come. >> the bottom lines you can only cut so much. eventually you need people to turn the lights on and off, right at a business? we are just about as lean as we have ever been before in the workforce. it's going to be hard to cut more. if enough people are not hired soon they are going to stop buying things because people don't buy things when they either don't have a job or are worried about their job that's bottom line where companies make money. they have to sell the things that they manufacturer, or the services that they provide. if they can't sell because too many people are out of work they will not have any corporate revenues and that means the stocks will come down as the unemployment is going up, and that's the worst of both worlds,

that is something stalled stag flation. i think we need a big summit, the president, congress, business leaders, getting together, figuring out a way to cut the cost of doing business. jenna: you want another meeting, david? come on. >> i want to cut the cost of doing business. we've got to do something. this company is really, real any trouble. jenna: david, great to see you as always. we'll see you over at fox business as always. jon: all eyes are on the u.s. supreme court right now, huge crowds on hand nor today's oral arguments over california's ban on gay marriage. perpetual swing vote justice anthony kennedy raising concerns about the court entering uncharted waters. leave it here for more on today's arguments and what else the justices had to say. also an exploding population of wild horses and how the federal government wants to control their numbers.

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jon: too many horses and too little land even in the wide open spaces of the west right now. the federal government saying the is running out of room for wild horses to room and finding its hands pretty much tied when it comes to reducing their numbers. alicia acuna is keeping an eye on that live from denver. >> reporter: what's more not only is there shrinking space in the wild range areas there is no more room left in captivity either, so says the bureau of land management. it's a gigantic math problem for the federal government. there are more wild horses in holding facilities around 50,000 than there are out on the range, an estimated 37,000. in 1971 congress charged the blm with preserving these american icons in ten western states, but the situation has reached near

capacity. >> if we don't manage them properly they will eat themselves out of house and home an enjoy the habitat that supports not only them but endangered species, plant or animal species and wildlife and what not. >> one promising solution is the youth of birth control drugs like pzp injected even to mares popular with advocates who want blm round ups of horses to end. >> i don't think that's the most humane solution. i think it is a science based humane solution that is also eek logically and economically sound. >> reporter: but that only works on a small number of herds. then there is adoption from the tens of thousands in blm holding facilities. kathleen recently adopted her second mustang. >> they kind of like to go and

do, but mostly just sit there so sound and strong and pretty. >> reporter: now adoption is a slow process, and, jon, only covers a fraction of the problem. if congress doesn't step in and right now there doesn't appear to be a plan to do so it would continue to cost taxpayers $50 million a year to feed the horses that are currently in captivity. jon. jon: they are beautiful animals. what a controversy. alicia acuna, thank you. jenna: harnessing the power of social media on the internet, how you woman you see sitting here saved this man's life even though they lived three thousand miles apart

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